“Brightest, smartest and most connected… for how long?”: Cyclists complain of “crazily priced” Garmin computer with shorter battery life; Driver faces prosecution after not giving way to cyclist on bike lane; MS Paint cycling kit? + more on the live blog (2024)

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  • “Brightest, smartest and most connected… for how long?”: Cyclists complain of “crazily priced” new Garmin bike computer with shorter battery life and no solar option

  • Dan Lloyd to no longer feature on The Breakaway or Eurosport’s cycling commentary

  • Red Bull-Bora-Hansgrohe's new look, in pictures feat. replacement for Checo Perez

  • Near Miss of the Day 911: Campervan tourist narrowly squeezes past cyclists, forcing oncoming driver to brake heavily – but escapes punishment after returning to Italy

  • Red Bull-Bora-Hansgrohe's officially launches its very dark blue kit, along with SL9 in a Red Bull livery

  • "We are finally getting there": Jeremy Vine's latest London video is a testament to everything that's great about cycling

  • UK’s cycling infrastructure “seriously lagging behind” bike-friendly European cities, according to new safe cycling ranking

  • "I have never felt so good on the bike": Tadej Pogačar issues ominous statement for his rivals before Tour de France, says his "shape is even better than what he expected"

  • NOOO! Leaked jersey shows Bora-Hansgrohe's sponsorship with Red Bull bring another— yes, ANOTHER blue jersey to the peloton

  • UCI warns cheaters “it is impossible to slip through the net” as new inspection tool set to be used at Tour de France to combat motor doping

  • MS Paint kit? Cofidis launch new Tour de France and Vuelta a España jersey (thankfully, it’s not blue)

  • “That should attract points and a fine. But it won’t, because this is car-loving Britain”: Driver faces prosecution after failing to give way to cyclist on a bike lane

  • Gears not working as they should? Here are 10 things to check to get them working crisper than Gary Lineker

“Brightest, smartest and most connected… for how long?”: Cyclists complain of “crazily priced” Garmin computer with shorter battery life; Driver faces prosecution after not giving way to cyclist on bike lane; MS Paint cycling kit? + more on the live blog (1)

2024 Garmin Edge 1050 Garmin Pay

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“Brightest, smartest and most connected… for how long?”: Cyclists complain of “crazily priced” Garmin computer with shorter battery life; Driver faces prosecution after not giving way to cyclist on bike lane; MS Paint cycling kit? + more on the live blog (2)

“Brightest, smartest and most connected… for how long?”: Cyclists complain of “crazily priced” new Garmin bike computer with shorter battery life and no solar option

“They wonder why the cycling industry is on its a***?”

These words don’t belong to your live blogger but a Facebook commenter— and to be fair, the truth is the cycling industry hasn’t been on a purple patch lately (by lately, I mean the last 2-3 years), to put it kindly. And cyclists, like many consumers in this capitalist society, are getting frustrated with the state of things, and looks like the latest brand to bear the brunt of that ire has been Garmin.

>What the hell is going on in the bike industry? Wiggle Chain Reaction turmoil discussed plus pro cycling's idiot problem on the road.cc Podcast

If you missed it, the Swiss-American company which makes fitness and sports equipments such as smart watches and cycling computers, released its latest, upgraded version of the latter yesterday: Garmin Edge 1050, its top of the line device that succeeds the Edge 1040, and is the company’s first new cyclingcomputer since the Edge 540 and Edge 840 were unveiled together more than a year ago.

And to start off the list of complaints road.cc has already seen about the product which was launched just a day ago, is the price. It costs £649.99— a price point at which you buy entire bikes (my Decathlon RC500, which I absolutely love, costs the same amount).

The list only begins there, more things that seem to be bugging cyclists is the lack of a solar option and shorter battery life— to compensate for the brighter screen, needing a new mount, and Garmin Pay — which allows you to make digital payments with your cycling computer— is unsupported by many UK banks.

>Cyclists blame "utterly ridiculous bike prices" for brands' ongoing struggles, after Giant's sales slashed again

Here are some words from road.cc readers:

muppetkeeper: “Careful of this one, GPlama on YouTube points out that the half turn mount has moved, and this unit is most likely not to fit on your existing mounts... FFS, idiots. How many of us have K-Edge or integrated mounts. I bought a1040 today, now just about affordable.”

Secret_squirrel: “What are Garmin up to? Didnt the 1030 go on for years before the 1040 was released? Personally I prefer a slightly crapper screen and almost double the battery life.
They must feel threatened by the Karoo?
I'd pay for a 1040.5 at about £399-£450. Might keep a lookout for discounted 1040’s…”

ravenbait: “Garmin pay is almost completely unsupported by banks in the UK, so I wouldn't worry too much about getting used to paying with your computer.”

60kg lean keen climbing machine: “£600 pounds for a bike computer, I would not have any cash left to buy muchcoffee and cake if i spent that amount on a bike head unit. I have spent less than that on a whole bike, and it works and does thejob that any bike should do just fine.My current computer is Bryton 420 (£80 - £100) That does every thing Iwant for over 6 times less. Yes if you got the cash then "fill your boots!!" but realy are we just being marketed ever more functions,tinkering at the edges, and then paying top money for only a little more?”

“Brightest, smartest and most connected… for how long?”: Cyclists complain of “crazily priced” Garmin computer with shorter battery life; Driver faces prosecution after not giving way to cyclist on bike lane; MS Paint cycling kit? + more on the live blog (3)

However, it wasn’t all bad blood…

Jetman’s Dad: “Garmin Pay supports Starling, I haven't paid with anything other than my Forerunner for the lastyear or so and it has worked flawlessly. The only place I was unable to use it was a small car park in Cornwall that also refused to accept a contactless payment from my Co-op visa debit card.

I'll give you that support across UK banks is poor, but it is not a "sh*t function thats almost entirely of zero use”.”

mark1a: “For every halo bike or top of the range accessory, there are many alternative options below it. Nobody is forcing you to buy anything, or indeed post a comment telling the class that you don't need it. Yes you can spend north of £12k on a bike, but equally there are many models below £1k.

One could also argue that the top end products contribute to the functionality of mainstream stuff with trickle-down technology. Do you think that mechanical 105 would be as good as it is now without the Dura-Ace of 10 years ago? Do you think Garmin Edge 130 (currently £140) would be as good as it is without the likes of 1030, 1040, 1050 sales funding the development?”

>“I’ll see you in the winter”: Zwift accused of “taking subscribers for granted” as monthly subscription rises from £12.99 to £17.99 – but company says price hike “necessary” for platform’s development

Over at Facebook, things were a lot less meticulous, and a lot more snappish, here’s a choice of comments…

“Seriously over hyped & priced. Will not pay so much for minor improvements”

“So it's easier to remove your Garmin from your bike mount to pay at the cafe than the phone you have in your back pocket… Genius”

“Has the battery life improved ? Brightest / Smartest / Most connected … for how long?”

“I see more and more competition in this market. So, do these benefits outweigh the negative aspects like limited battery life?”

“If you can ride fast then you would not need more than 5hrs of battery life…”

*cue to Remco Evenepoel getting dropped in the Alps and then waiting for his team car to get a change of Garmin…

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“Brightest, smartest and most connected… for how long?”: Cyclists complain of “crazily priced” Garmin computer with shorter battery life; Driver faces prosecution after not giving way to cyclist on bike lane; MS Paint cycling kit? + more on the live blog (4)

Dan Lloyd to no longer feature on The Breakaway or Eurosport’s cycling commentary

You might have heard, but GCN, after first being bought by Warner Brothers in November, has recently been sold back to its founders. And just last week, it was announced thatEurosport’s Premium subscription service will close down the day after the Tour de France ends, with subscribers told to instead sign up for Discovery+ and HBO Max – and pay a significantly larger sum to watch live cycling.

Amidst all this chaos, what many cycling fans referred to as cycling going back to the "dark ages", former British pro cyclist as well as commentator and presenter for GCN/Eurosport Daniel Lloyd will no longer be on The Breakaway show orEurosport’s cycling commentary.

>“Feels like cycling coverage is about to go back into the dark ages”: Cycling fans blast “absolute disgrace and disaster” as Eurosport Player set to shut down after Tour de France

Sharing the news, Lloyd wrote: "GCN’s journey with Eurosport and live racing is something I’ll never forget - we achieved a hell of a lot in a very short time. I think we made some really positive changes for cycling, and I will always be very proud of that. However, it's been a tough 8 months or so for GCN - the shuttering of GCN+, and now the website, has meant we've lost a lot of very talented, hard working colleagues who are incredibly passionate about the sport.

The show must go on, though. GCN is still full of amazing people, and more importantly, supported by an incredible community of cyclists. I firmly believe that the next part of our journey will be more exciting than ever - I want to be part of, and instrumental in that next adventure, the next chapter.

Unfortunately, that means I will no longer be on The Breakaway or Eurosport’s cycling commentary. It's a part of my job that I will dearly miss, but more than that, I will miss the fantastic group of people (on screen/mic and off) who I had the privilege of working with there for the last few years. I really couldn't have asked for a better team to spend three weeks at a time with.

Thanks to all of you who have been so kind in your messages of support for GCN these last few months - it's really meant the world to everyone at the company."

As some of you will have read/seen, we recently regained financial and editorial control of PSN (PlaySportsNetwork) from Warner Bros Discovery, which means some changes for me.

I could never have imagined when I joined GCN at its inception in 2012 that we'd go from a small… pic.twitter.com/a2DvucFSMy

— Daniel Lloyd (@daniellloyd1) June 25, 2024

15:34

Red Bull-Bora-Hansgrohe's new look, in pictures feat. replacement for Checo Perez

New team name, new kit, new Twitter handle, erm... new replacement for Sergio Perez in Formula 1?

Now we know who will replace Checo 😂 pic.twitter.com/INGPIIsMS9

— Un grenoblois (@PGrenoblois) June 26, 2024

Yes, I know he just secured a two-year contract extension, but hey, with Helmut Marko at the helm, you never know! Imagine Roglič racing against Max Verstappen — I mean, Primož in the driver seat and Max on the saddle, of course.

15:28

Near Miss of the Day 911: Campervan tourist narrowly squeezes past cyclists, forcing oncoming driver to brake heavily – but escapes punishment after returning to Italy

“Brightest, smartest and most connected… for how long?”: Cyclists complain of “crazily priced” Garmin computer with shorter battery life; Driver faces prosecution after not giving way to cyclist on bike lane; MS Paint cycling kit? + more on the live blog (5)

road.ccreader Stephen was cycling the Hebridean Way, a spectacular 190-odd mile route through Scotland’s Outer Hebrides and a magnet for touring cyclists over the past decade, earlier this month when he and another cyclist were close passed on their return leg through Skye by a fellow tourist and campervan driver, in a highly dangerous manoeuvre that forced an oncoming driver to almost come to a halt to avoid a collision.

> Near Miss of the Day 911: Campervan tourist narrowly squeezes past cyclists, forcing oncoming driver to brake heavily – but escapes punishment after returning to Italy

Red Bull-Bora-Hansgrohe's officially launches its very dark blue kit, along with SL9 in a Red Bull livery

To add to my, and hopefully, yourmisery, Red Bull-Bora-Hansgrohehas live streamed its kit-unveiling, with PrimožRoglič riding the SL9 in a Red Bull liveryin front of anairplane, for some reason. The teamis currently updating its website to show off pictures of itsbrand-new, very dark blue, very dull jersey...

“Brightest, smartest and most connected… for how long?”: Cyclists complain of “crazily priced” Garmin computer with shorter battery life; Driver faces prosecution after not giving way to cyclist on bike lane; MS Paint cycling kit? + more on the live blog (6)

There's my hopes of the leaked kit pictures being fake getting crushed in real-time. But maybe it's my fault for even holding out any hope that the kit will be anything other than dark blue given that Red Bull is becoming the team's title sponsor...

Watch out Primoz, don’t crash! 😂#TDF2024 🇫🇷pic.twitter.com/BOgpgzSceQ

— Domestique (@Domestique___) June 26, 2024

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I'm at least glad to see that my disdain is shared by other cycling fans.

Could it be any more boring and unrecognizable? Such a shame, Red Bull could've given us a splash of yellow like the F1 cars, or silver/blue like the cans, but no, just basic dark blue like every other team

— Arnaud_vds (@Nebrisbeef) June 26, 2024

13:35

"We are finally getting there": Jeremy Vine's latest London video is a testament to everything that's great about cycling

Everything in this video is great. Kids cycling about, girl enjoying music on her bike, man in a suit riding to work on a hire bike. All in complete safety because a city chose to invest in segregated cycle lanes. We are finally getting there. https://t.co/UkIpiaF7Pi

— Jon (@Jontafkasi) June 25, 2024

13:02

UK’s cycling infrastructure “seriously lagging behind” bike-friendly European cities, according to new safe cycling ranking

“Brightest, smartest and most connected… for how long?”: Cyclists complain of “crazily priced” Garmin computer with shorter battery life; Driver faces prosecution after not giving way to cyclist on bike lane; MS Paint cycling kit? + more on the live blog (7)

The UK “continues to lag seriously behind its European counterparts” when it comes to safe, connected cycling infrastructure, a new global ranking of bike-friendly cities has revealed.

According to US-based advocacy groupPeople for Bikes’ City Ratings(link is external), a data analysis tool ranking cities and towns across the world on how amenable they are to cycling, Cambridge tops the chart as the UK’s most bike-friendly city, but only sits 11th overall when compared to the rest of Europe, while 16 of England’s 20 highest-rated boroughs are in London.

>UK’s cycling infrastructure “seriously lagging behind” bike-friendly European cities, according to new safe cycling ranking

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“Brightest, smartest and most connected… for how long?”: Cyclists complain of “crazily priced” Garmin computer with shorter battery life; Driver faces prosecution after not giving way to cyclist on bike lane; MS Paint cycling kit? + more on the live blog (8)

"I have never felt so good on the bike": Tadej Pogačar issues ominous statement for his rivals before Tour de France, says his "shape is even better than what he expected"

Is it mind games, or is Pogi just really that good?

One would argue that the cyclist who's enthralled the world in the past four years, proving his immense range of skillsets and the sheer brilliance on bike, and has already had a magnificent so far this year, winning the Strade Bianche, Liège-Bastogne-Liège, Volta a Catalunya, and Giro d'Italia in a dominating manner, wouldn't really need any mind games against his rivals — and that perhaps is an even scarier situationfor them.

“Brightest, smartest and most connected… for how long?”: Cyclists complain of “crazily priced” Garmin computer with shorter battery life; Driver faces prosecution after not giving way to cyclist on bike lane; MS Paint cycling kit? + more on the live blog (9)

>Was Tadej Pogačar’s Giro d’Italia victory boring? And does it matter?

Speaking onhis teamwebsite,the 25-year-old Slovenian said: "I’m really looking forward to the start of the Tour, I think it’s going to be a special start for me because I won the Giro, and the Tour starts in Italy, so I think it’s going to be amazing! It’s looked like I’ve made a step forward since the Giro, and my shape is even better than what I expected.

"I’ve done some good training, and I’ve tested my legs a little bit and to be honest, I have never felt so good on the bike. I’m really looking forward to seeing if I have improved in the race situations from the Giro, but I feel good so I cannot complain!”

Comparing his performance this year to last time around, when he suffered a wrist fracture at Liège-Bastogne-Liège andwas beaten comprehensively in the Grand Boucle by Jonas Vingegaard, he said: "Last year was totally different because of the injury. No one prepares like that for the Tour if they’re not injured and so many things around me didn’t go well after the crash in Liege.

"I saw who was there to help me and who wasn’t. There was some disappointment and negative energy around, and it all built up to the Tour de France – I wasn’t 100% confident. There was going to be a moment where it all built up and I was going to crack and it was probably the ITT at Combloux, after that time trial I completely shut down, there was no coming back.

"Also, after the Tour I had the world championships, nothing went right for me, and I had a tough moment. Luckily, I could recover and finish the season well. This year I also did the Giro, so it is again a different preparation from previous Tour de France races – more or less you need to train and recover, push on the big training days and recover on the easy days."

“Brightest, smartest and most connected… for how long?”: Cyclists complain of “crazily priced” Garmin computer with shorter battery life; Driver faces prosecution after not giving way to cyclist on bike lane; MS Paint cycling kit? + more on the live blog (10)

Jonas Vingegaard will be looking for a three-peat at the Tour de France(Zac Williams/SWpix.com)

Incidentally, the tables have turned this time around, with Vingegaard suffering a serious and very unfortunateinjury at the horror crash at the Itzulia Basque Tour, where two of Pogačar'schief rivals,Primož Roglič,runner-up in 2020,and Remco Evenepoel, making his debut at the Tour de France, were also injured.

> “He has to be the old Jonas again”: Visma-Lease a Bike DS says Vingegaard will decide for himself whether or not he’ll go to Tour de France

With Pogačar sounding so confident about his skills, is there anyone you think can beat him right now? Or do we stop overthinking, sit back, and relish the greatness for the next three weeks? As always, feel free to share your feelings in the comments

11:50

NOOO! Leaked jersey shows Bora-Hansgrohe's sponsorship with Red Bull bring another— yes, ANOTHER blue jersey to the peloton

After suffering through Red Bull's dominance in Formula 1 and going through their liveries — which have basically stayed the same for the last 15 years — it looks like I'll have to bear with the team's boring design choices, if not their dominance in cycling as well now.

After initial drawings of the jersey did the rounds on the internet, now an image of the jersey on a mannequin has leaked, andthe Austrianenergy drink company looks like it'sready to announce its entrance to the pro cycling world with a bland, lifeless dark blue jersey to take over Bora-Hansgrohe's beautiful emerald/neon greens.

Será assim o uniforme da Bora Red Bull?

Pobrinho.#TDF2024 #ciclismonaespn pic.twitter.com/GULkkjcKCd

— O País Do Ciclismo (@opaisdociclismo) June 26, 2024

>Bora-Hansgrohe confirm Red Bull merger and “joint venture”, which will “complement” existing sponsorship deals

Please, please, I cannot bear the sight of more blue kits in the peloton!

11:15

UCI warns cheaters “it is impossible to slip through the net” as new inspection tool set to be used at Tour de France to combat motor doping

“Brightest, smartest and most connected… for how long?”: Cyclists complain of “crazily priced” Garmin computer with shorter battery life; Driver faces prosecution after not giving way to cyclist on bike lane; MS Paint cycling kit? + more on the live blog (11)

The UCI has warned any rider attempting to race with a hidden motor in their bike during the Tour de France that it is “impossible to slip through the net”, as cycling’s governing body announced that a new unspecified inspection tool will be used during the race to combat any potential technological fraud in the peloton.

In a statement released this morning, the UCI has said that, before each of the 21 stages of the Tour, which gets underway this Saturday in Florence, checks will be carried out using a magnetic tablet on every bike being used at the start of that day’s stage, in a bid to detect any hint of a concealed motor.

Read more: >UCI warns cheaters “it is impossible to slip through the net” as new inspection tool set to be used at Tour de France to combat motor doping

10:29

MS Paint kit? Cofidis launch new Tour de France and Vuelta a España jersey (thankfully, it’s not blue)

As we inch ever closer to the Florence Grand Départ (how are you all containing your emotions because I, for one, can’t wait to spend whole days glued to the tele with the Tour and Euros on), pro cycling continues to gift us with new kits for the Grand Tour.

Zoom sur un design auquel il faudra vous habituer ces prochaines semaines 👀😄🚴🏼‍♂️ pic.twitter.com/qByDArLrrI

— Team Cofidis (@TeamCOFIDIS) June 26, 2024

After yesterday’s horrific disaster of Alpecin-Deceuninck’s grey double denim, I feel the bar for a special jersey for quite low, and thankfully, Cofidis hasn’t lowered it with a perfectly fine, decent, passable kit— that looks like the rough draft of a fresh graphic design school graduate.

Okay, I’m being a little too harsh there. For what it’s worth, the jersey isn’t blue — unlike Visma-Lease a Bike’s “Renaissance” jersey, along with half the rest of thepeloton.

At least the launch video’s alright…

Nouveau design et nouveau maillot @MobelSport pour @LeTour et @lavuelta !
Direction Florence dès samedi ! pic.twitter.com/9tWfTO3301

— Team Cofidis (@TeamCOFIDIS) June 26, 2024

It’s time for another hot or not, road.cc pre-Tour de France edition.

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“That should attract points and a fine. But it won’t, because this is car-loving Britain”: Driver faces prosecution after failing to give way to cyclist on a bike lane

One of Jeremy Vine’s favourite things to capture on his 360-degree camera, and perhaps one of the things cyclists have to be the most cautious about when riding in the town, is seemingly unaware motorists turning across you on the bike lane— despite the Highway Code specifically asking them not to do so.

And I’m not sure how many readers of this live blog will agree with me, but it’s especially infuriating when you’re following another cyclist, and the driver stops and gives way to them, but decides to completely ignore you and go on their way as usual.

That’s exactly what happened to one cyclist in London, who shared a video of the incident, writing: “There's a certain type of drive who (presumably) sees a cyclist go by in the bike lane and then thinks, “well it's entirely impossible that any other cyclists come along so I can just pull across without looking”… All whilst indicating too late and failing to look or give way.”

There's a certain type of drive who (presumably) sees a cyclist go by in the bike lane and then thinks

"well it's entirely impossible that any other cyclists come along so I can just pull across without looking"

All whilst indicating too late and failing to look or give way. pic.twitter.com/jorCXokS75

— AZB (@azb2019) June 24, 2024

It’s sometimes really baffling to see the number of people defend such driving and instead pin the blame of the cyclist for trying to be too brave and righteous and put themselves at risk, when we are simply cycling and trying to follow the rules, hoping that others do too (following the rules part… okay, hoping others cycle too).

“What sort of cyclist knowingly puts themselves in danger in the smug knowledge that an inquest will posthumously find they were ‘right’?” wrote one Twitter user, while ignoring to highlight which part of the Highway Code were they referring to in claiming that the cyclist was “in the wrong” here.

However, a lot of cyclists were critical of the driver too. “That should attract points and a fine. But it won't, because this is car-loving Britain,” wrote Lee Jones, to which the cyclist replied saying that the driver is being prosecuted.

They have the object permanence of a 3month old baby

— AZB (@azb2019) June 24, 2024

09:26

Gears not working as they should? Here are 10 things to check to get them working crisper than Gary Lineker

Say goodbye to your skipping gears, ticking chains and annoying rubbing noises as we diagnose and fix some of the most common issues with your road bike or gravel bike’s gears.

> Shift like a pro: 10 reasons why your bike's gears aren't working as they should, and how to fix it

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Adwitiya joined road.cc in 2023 as a news writer after graduating with amasters in journalism from Cardiff University. Hisdissertation focused onactive travel, which soon threw him into the deep end of covering everythingrelated to the two-wheeled tool, and now cycling is as big a part of his life as guitars and football.He has previously covered local and national politics for Voice Wales, and also likes towrites about science, tech and the environment, if he can find the time. Living right next to the Taff trail in the Welsh capital, you can find himtrying to tackle the brutal climbs in the valleys.

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eburtthebike | 1 hour ago

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UK’s cycling infrastructure “seriously lagging behind” bike-friendly European cities..

I do so love the English understatement.

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mdavidford | 1 hour ago

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Maybe time for the UCI to do something useful and introduce kit rules like football's, so that when Red Dull turn up in a kit that clashes with half the peleton they have to change into something else. And if they don't have anything suitable they have to borrow it from the local amateur squad.

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Wingguy | 1 hour ago

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Specialized SL how many?

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mitsky | 2 hours ago

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Not cycling related but...

"A woman who killed two eight-year-old girls when her car crashed into a school in south-west London will not face criminal charges, the Metropolitan Police has said."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw4448xx4keo

The usual incorrect and contradictory "... car hit..." language used.

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hawkinspeter replied to mitsky | 2 hours ago

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mitsky wrote:

Not cycling related but...

"A woman who killed two eight-year-old girls when her car crashed into a school in south-west London will not face criminal charges, the Metropolitan Police has said."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw4448xx4keo

Epileptic seizure apparently

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mitsky replied to hawkinspeter | 2 hours ago

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Indeed.
And it was the first time, so no pre-existing medical diagnosis for it.

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Rendel Harris replied to mitsky | 2 hours ago

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mitsky wrote:

Indeed.
And it was the first time, so no pre-existing medical diagnosis for it.

Which could happen to anybody, so one would think that would be a good advertisem*nt for banning cars that are so huge, heavy and reinforced that when such a thing happens they can smash through walls and into school yards.

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quiff replied to Rendel Harris | 1 hour ago

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I remember looking up the location at the time and being shocked that (whatever the circ*mstances) they could have gained enough speed to plough through the fencehttps://maps.app.goo.gl/Gx1DvpuzZe6XQCwp9

EDIT - I'm getting some very poorly-timed Land Rover ads now.

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Oldfatgit replied to mitsky | 1 hour ago

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First *reported* incidence.

It's not unknown for drivers to have medical conditions that would be an automatic licence-looser to not report them.

I seem to remember a certain bin man in Glasgow, just before Christmas 2014 killing 6 people and injuring 15 others ... pre-existing condition - he just didn't tell anyone as he knew he'd loose his HGV

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Secret_squirrel replied to hawkinspeter | 2 hours ago

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No.

I find that very very hard to believe. The CPS should be forced to articulate the details of how they came to their decision. How much medical evidence was considered. How many second opinions were sought, and whether the decision was made on any contary evidence of not reaching reasonable doubt, or whether there was a genuine and ongoing medical condition.

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Rendel Harris replied to Secret_squirrel | 1 hour ago

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Now that the CPS have decided not to prosecute they will pass their findings to the coroner for the inquest and the details will come out then. It's not really that surprising, there are over 600,000 people with epilepsy in the UK and to every one of them their first seizure will have been unexpected and sometimes it will happen when they are at the wheel of a car, sadly. I did always think some form of medical episode was the most likely explanation if the driver's drink and drugs tests came back negative and there was no indication of any mental disorder which made her take the action deliberately.

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wtjs | 3 hours ago

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“That should attract points and a fine. But it won't, because this is car-loving Britain,” wrote Lee Jones, to which the cyclist replied saying that the driver is being prosecuted

Some may say this is just a jaundiced view from a Lancashire resident, but I don't believe there will be a real, genuine prosecution of this offence. It's possible there will be talk of one, or one of those police con-artist letters where they say there are a number of possible outcomes "which could include..." followed by a list with the word 'prosecution' in it

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mitsky | 3 hours ago

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Whilst the clip from JV does look good, I wonder if acyclist should be that close to someone in front without having their hands on the handlebars to access the brakes.
If something happened that required them to stop in an emergency, theshort distance would not give them enough time to react.

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Rendel Harris replied to mitsky | 3 hours ago

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At no point can we see their hands or indeed the bars, what makes you think that they are riding no hands? If it's the whistle, there are a number of electronic bells available that have a whistling sound as one of the options, it's most likely one of those.

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mitsky replied to Rendel Harris | 3 hours ago

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There may be some confusion as to which cyclist I am referring to: the one that is singing/conducting an orchestra.

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Rendel Harris replied to mitsky | 2 hours ago

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Apologies, the other video – the left hook one – also mentions JV so I thought you were referring to that one, I hadn't seen the other. Thoroughly agree with you, using the cycle lanes in London every day in a way I think it's great that people feel secure enough to ride no hands but a lot of them aren't actually very good at it and don't seem to realise that an unexpected bump, pothole or even gust of wind could bring them and the cyclists around them crashing down.

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quiff replied to Rendel Harris | 2 hours ago

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Wrong news item!

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brooksby replied to quiff | 2 hours ago

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I never learned to ride without holding at least one hand on the handlebars.

(Never learned to mount - or dismount - the bike while the bike was moving, either…)

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quiff replied to brooksby | 2 hours ago

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Riding no-hands - despite most of my bikes being fairly similar (don't tell my wife I admitted that) some are much easier than others. I had a Specialized Allez that I couldn't, but a similar geometry Canyon which I could ride for miles in the right conditions. The cargo bike is a work in progress and I don't think I'm brave enough to try the Brompton.

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andystow replied to quiff | 15 min ago

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quiff wrote:

Riding no-hands - despite most of my bikes being fairly similar (don't tell my wife I admitted that) some are much easier than others. I had a Specialized Allez that I couldn't, but a similar geometry Canyon which I could ride for miles in the right conditions. The cargo bike is a work in progress and I don't think I'm brave enough to try the Brompton.

I can go a long way on most of my bikes with no hands on the bar, some easier than others, but usually only a few seconds on the Brompton.

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Jakrayan replied to quiff | 3 sec ago

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My 2010 Orbea Orca I could even ride no-hands on the rollers, though I wouldn't dare try with my titanium Enigma which hadexactly the same geometry (custom frame). I've also found since I stopped doing strength conditioning and core work that I'm not as stable or confident either, so there's definitelyelements of bike and rider involved.

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mdavidford | 3 hours ago

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Quote:

We are finally getting there

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UK’s cycling infrastructure “seriously lagging behind”

Blognitive dissonance!

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chrisonabike replied to mdavidford | 1 hour ago

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Nothing new there! Just depends what things you compare!

Lots of divergent views of the same situations:

  • It's very safe to cycle in the UK * - but also more dangerous / and certainly can feel far more unpleasant than it could be. So it could be "stop worrying!" OR "but dangerous roads", depending on your viewpoint (like that of our recent remote re-visitor from the US!)
  • Many people make short journeys they could easily cycle. Some of those even say they'd consider doing so. But they don't **!
  • Some parts of the UK are better, some worse.
  • Some parts have "come a long way" - but then compared to other places look pretty rubbish.
  • If you get more people cycling (particularly more than a few "fit and brave") or they're cycling somewhere other than parks, the number of crashes and incidents with people on bikes will go up (unless you make further changes)!

I think that most of the UK is just starting to seriously realise that mass motoring has some down sides. So as populations grow we're having issues with capacity and congestion / road maintenance / pollution - including noise pollution / how can we provide the new infra for cars 2.0 - electric / too much surface being impermeable etc.) So councils are perhaps starting to look at ways of having fewer journeys driven.

I'm not sure how many consider that cycling could be a serious part of helping things? Of those where they do I suspect many are still in the "encouraging cycling" phase - perhaps running some campaigns (training for 0.01% of the population, 50 pounds off some bikes purchased with this scheme). Or painting some intermittent thin lanes. Wishful thinking.

A very few places are - perhaps - getting to the point where they are grappling with the notion of what to do with all these cyclists that have appeared? But I think this is often "pedestrians are concerned! How to we slow them down / police them?"

I'm hoping they'll see that (like with motorists) perhaps the way is carrot and stick - but you get more return on the carrot!

* The UK's got better traffic death stats than many places. We're still among the best in Europe (countries there are mostly at the top). We're even better than NL, never mind further afield.

** They say that they're concerned about safety but as noted this is one of the safest places in the world to travel. Hence I think that "just doesn't feel safe" and "actually - it's *change* - and there aren't other people doing it / it's not social." Plus we've just made driving more convenient (and sometimes cycling less so deliberately).

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mdavidford replied to chrisonabike | 1 hour ago

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chrisonabike wrote:

[a well thought-out and serious comment]

Yes. But puns!

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chrisonabike replied to mdavidford | 1 hour ago

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mdavidford wrote:

chrisonabike wrote:

[a well thought-out and serious comment]

Yes. But puns!

It was noted! “Pun: A form of wit, to which wise men stoop and fools aspire.” - Ambrose Bierce - who after writing that stooped to many.

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mdavidford replied to chrisonabike | 1 hour ago

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Fortunately, I'm not wise, or with all that stooping, these days I'd never get back up again.

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Tom_77 | 4 hours ago

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"They have the object permanence of a 3month old baby"

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ROOTminus1 | 4 hours ago

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If the RB Bora Hansgrohe really *had* to go dark blue, they could have at least done the blue and white/silver quartered background

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Hirsute | 5 hours ago

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Was doing 31 in a 30 single carriageway earlier to be overtaken by a driver doing 44 with no clear line of sight.

Would they do that to another driver? Complete car brain.

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mdavidford replied to Hirsute | 4 hours ago

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In Northern ireland they would - it's routine.

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